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Jj Ricci That photo isn't accurate. Why? Because it dismissed the idea that it takes an intelligent mind (i.e. God- the uncaused first cause) to have existed PRIOR to anything subsequent being created.
Nothing can't create anything but an omnipotent Creator God is not nothing (but something) and therefore can create.
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Suresh Wanayalae Jj Ricci , Your definition of a God doesn't prove an existence of a God.
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★ If no one created the Universe, then it should be equal to zero (0). 
Dark Energy = (-1) + (0) + (+1) = 0

There are two main reasons caused to grow the universe:
1.) Empty 
2.) Distance
Empty + Distance = 0, but the Universe also had -1 with +1. So the Universe was filled with Dark Energy. Dark Energy is an appearing and disappearing two forms of emptinesses with an appearing and disappearing distance. But it doesn't stop with a 0 because the -1 with +1 is also equal to 0, so the universe is those three things 0, -1, +1. And the imbalance of the three things caused to create dark matter and ordinary matter (-Empty+Distance). Matter is a seperated form of Dark Energy.

Dark Energy = -Empty +Empty +Distance -Distance = 0 

'Dark Energy' should be like this:
★ Dark Energy = Empty + Distance = {+Empty + Distance (*Space appear)} + {+Empty - Distance (*Space disappear)} + {-Empty + Distance (*Black Holes/Matter/Form appear)} + {-Empty - Distance (*Black Holes/Matter/Form disappear)}

Dark Energy = Empty + Distance (Empty = Mother, Distance = Father, '+' = Interaction)

Dark Energy created dark matter and ordinary matter (Babies). That's all.

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Jj Ricci It takes information to perform action. Where did Dark Matter get its info to create anything? 
Are you claiming that Dark Matter is God?
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Suresh Wanayalae Jj Ricci , "Dark Energy" is the real creator.

Dark Energy = Empty + Distance (Empty = Mother, Distance = Father, '+' = Interaction)

Dark Energy created dark matter and ordinary matter (Babies). That's all. 

Buddhist Explanation: "Form is emptiness, Emptiness is form."
It sounds like that there are two forms of emtinesses. (Positive Form Of Emptiness (+Empty) And Negative Form Of Emptiness (-Empty))

Our observable universe have 68.3% dark energy, 26.8% dark matter and 4.9% ordinary matter.

Properties of the "Space" are:
1.) It has a distance
2.) It is the positive form of emptiness (Existence)

Properties of the "Black Holes" (Matter/Form) are:
1.) It has a distance
2.) It is the negative form of emptiness (Non-Existence)

★ (Space + Black Holes) - Distance =
((distance + positive empty) + (distance + negative empty)) - Distance = positive empty + negative empty = Empty

Now we can understand this Formula:
★ Space + Black Holes - Distance = Empty

So we can tell this for sure:
★ Empty + Distance = Space + Black Holes = Universe (or Multiverse)

Dark Energy = Empty + Distance = {+Empty + Distance (*Space appear)} + {+Empty - Distance (*Space disappear)} + {-Empty + Distance (*Black Holes/Matter/Form appear)} + {-Empty - Distance (*Black Holes/Matter/Form disappear)}

There are two main reasons caused to grow the universe:
1.) Empty 
2.) Distance
Empty + Distance = 0, but the Universe also had -1 with +1. So the Universe was filled with Dark Energy. Dark Energy is an 'appearing and disappearing two forms of emptinesses with appearing and disappearing distance'. But it doesn't stop with a 0 because the -1 with +1 is also equal to 0, so the universe is those three things 0, -1, +1. And the imbalance of the three things caused to create dark matter and ordinary matter (-Empty+Distance). Matter is a seperated form of Dark Energy.
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Reason to Expansion of the Universe can explain from my theory: 

Dark Energy = +Empty - Empty + Distance - Distance
Expansion = +Distance

Dark Energy - Expansion = -Empty + Empty - Distance + Distance - Distance

Dark Energy - Expansion = -Empty + Empty - Distance

Dark Energy - Expansion = Dark Energy Disappear.

The amount of dark energy increasing and decreasing after every big bang.

Buddhism explain it too: Form is emptiness, Emptiness is form.

Proof for the duality of Existence (appearing and disappearing) : Quantum Double Slit Experiment
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Jj Ricci Do you think that the idea that people have come up with an impersonal Force i.e dark matter as the Creator because an impersonal Force doesn't make moral commands on people's lives ...so do you think that that's more comfortable for people to grasp onto instead of an personal and ultimate Creator God who they would be accountable to?
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Suresh Wanayalae Jj Ricci , I explained about the existence of the Universe without a creator God. But the existence of the living beings is a different topic. However, I'll try to explain it too.

Our own actions become 'Data' in the Universe. And those Data deal with Attachment (Attachment = A connection between Data and Matter/Form). And then it rearranges Matter/Form and Data. And there are two main types of Attachments. 
1.) Desired Attachment (Pali: chanda raga) 
2.) Undesired Attachmment (Attachment without a power of Clinging)

Those two things work with Gravity and our Actions (Karma/Data). And that is what gives results to our good or bad actions. 

★ When our Desired Attachment work against Undesired Attachment of ourselves and others, then it causes to lead the 'Desired Attachment' to the direction of higher Gravity (Below the earth/Hell).

★ When our Desired Attachment reduce the Desire or Support the Undesired Attachment of ourselves and others, then it causes to lead the 'Less Desired Attachment' to the direction of lower Gravity (Higher the earth/Sky/Heaven).

★ When we remove Desire completely from the Desired Attachment of ourselves, then it becomes an Undesired Attachment and then it causes to reduce the Clinging of the Attachment and it fails to be Attached to another Form/Matter (life) after the death (Unattached to the force of Gravity and Data or Karma/ Inactive/ Nirvana).

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According to Buddhism there are '5 Aggregates Of Clinging' which cause to continue the mind.

(Matter or Form (rupa), Sensation or Feeling (vedana), Perception and/or cognition (sanna), Volition or Mental Formation (sankara), Consciousness (vinnana) )

I guess this is how those 5 Aggregates Of Clinging started to work together:

i.) Matter or Form (rupa) = Body

ii.) Data = Sensation or Feeling (vedana) (a cosmic structural change)

iii.) The amount of Data = Perception and/or cognition (sanna)

iv.) The power/pattern of attachment = Volition or Mental Formation (sankara)

v.) Attachment = Consciousness/mind (Vinnana)

I guess this is how it started:

1.) Matter/Form touched Matter/Form and then it made a 'Data' (Data = a cosmic structural change).

2,) Matter/Form touched 'Data' and then it made an Attachment.

3.) Attachment (Vinnana) caused to touch 'Data' (Naama) with another Matter/Form (Rupa) again.

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Jj Ricci Ok. Nice explanation. But here's a foundational question for you to consider: Could you be wrong about everything you know?

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Suresh Wanayalae Jj Ricci , My explanations are based on causes and effects, common sense, facts, science, logics, astrology, Buddhist cosmology and explanations about the process of mind/body/Karma. If I'll have enough time I'll explain more later. Now I need to take a break.
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Jj Ricci Suresh Wanayalae Could you be wrong about what you know?
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Suresh Wanayalae Jj Ricci , I used existing materials (emptiness, distance, dark energy, dark matter, ordinary matter, space and etc) and the behaviours (actions/output/result) of those materials to build a theoritical connection between those materials. And it is a connection between causes and effects. My explanations don't change the causes and effects. And explanations support the behaviours of the those causes and effects, and it has explained why quantum particles behave like waves. And it can explain why dark energy increased after the bigbang (until the maturity of the universe) and how the Dark Energy expand the Universe now (until the end of the universe). And it predicts that the Dark Energy should decrease with the expansion of the Universe.

I didn't create anything or I didn't use miracles to build my explanation. You can check each and every detail of the process separately to understand that all those things are based on causes and effects and existing materials. Then you can't say that there is something wrong with the final result.
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Suresh Wanayalae I can tell you why the Planets, Stars and Black Holes having a rounded shape. It shows the connection between Space and Matter, because the Matter is the opposite energy of Space. Both Matter and Space are moving against each other during the cyclic process of the Universe. If we stretch a rubber band we know that the both sides of the rubber band can't move to the same direction without an external force. Because the force of a side of the rubber band depends on the force of the opposite side of the rubber band. Those forces are going in and out. The forces of Space and Matter depends on Dark Energy too. So we can understand why Matter (ordinary matter) try to go inside (Gravity) against the space. And if the space expand more and more, and then if the Dark Matter (Dark Matter is an extremely small particle) combine with each other, then it will make more objects with a rounded shape, or it will bring the space back to the center, or it will joint all the matter together and it will blow up moving outside (reducing the higher gravity) and the same time the space will start to move inside, or it will cause to disappear the Matter and then it will break the Space and make Matter again (Ordinary Matter and Dark Matter) to balance the forces.
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Kristopher Bayones I really don’t understand your saying space is something there. Why can’t it be nothing there empty void like most people believe objects like the sun get they’re shape from exploding in all directions which is not a perfect 0 but it never is before all that it was a bunch of gases which was nothing near to an 0 planets are round mainly do to their forces of gravity which pull from all directions “gravity pulls from the center to the edges like the spokes of a bicycle wheel this makes the overall shape of a planet sphere”.
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Suresh Wanayalae Ignore the planets, and think about Black Holes. 

Space = Clear Emptiness

Black Holes = Solid Emptiness

Planets/Stars/Asteroids = Solid Emptiness + Clear Emptiness

Planets/Stars/Asteroids are mixed objects, so those things doesn't make the shape perfectly.

Direction of the Space (Positive form of emptiness) = Outside = It helps to expand the Universe

Direction of the Black Holes (Negotive form of emptiness) = Inside = It has created a Gravity
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Kristopher Bayones I’m not trying to through you off but I don’t think black holes are emptiness in the earlier days they had a lot of myths like gateways to another place or refer to as a great emptiness because of our lake of ability to see them but actually they’re full of stuff practically anything that comes by sucks even lite in
And space doesn’t have any direction the universe does the universe is considered to be our groups of galaxies nebula black matter (still a theory the contender being irregular gravity between celestial objects and the contender is losing) and all other matter in the largest group beyond our localized group our group of all of this my point is it’s matter space is a void nothing moves cause nothing’s there that’s why it’s called space you fill it in with stuff
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Kristopher Bayones Did you know that our closest galaxy is over 1000 times greater than our galaxy in which we are on a head to head collision course with that will happen in roughly 400billion years
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Suresh Wanayalae Kristopher Bayones . Our observable universe have 68.3% dark energy, 26.8% dark matter and 4.9% ordinary matter.

'Dark Energy' should be like this:
Dark Energy = +Empty - Empty + Distance - Distance

★ Dark Energy = Empty + Distance = {+Empty + Distance (*Space appear)} + {+Empty - Distance (*Space disappear)} + {-Empty + Distance (*Black Holes/Matter/Form appear)} + {-Empty - Distance (*Black Holes/Matter/Form disappear)}

Buddhist Explanation: "Form is emptiness, Emptiness is form."
It sounds like that there are two forms of emtinesses. (Positive Form Of Emptiness (+Empty) And Negative Form Of Emptiness (-Empty))

"Dark Energy is the creator of the Universe."

Read more: 
https://bauddha-tharka.blogspot.com/.../dark-energy...

https://bauddha-tharka.blogspot.com/.../i-have-theory-and...

https://bauddha-tharka.blogspot.com/.../existence-of...
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Kristopher Bayones I am interested and reading

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Suresh Wanayalae Kristopher Bayones , I know that. Still we can't change the directions of galaxies.
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Suresh Wanayalae Kristopher Bayones , If have enough time you can try to read this too: 
(How Life Started From The Five Aggregates Of Clinging And Chanda Raga?) https://bauddha-tharka.blogspot.com/.../how-life-started...
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Kristopher Bayones All looks pretty interesting

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Suresh Wanayalae Thank you 🙏🙏🙏
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Lily PearceLily and 101 others manage the membership and posts for Buddhism. At our centre we emphasize the benefit in take teachings from Geshes/Geshemas who are Bhikshus/Bhikshunis. Then at least they've got proper qualifications. Seems like good advice.

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Suresh WanayalaeYou and 101 others manage the membership and posts for Buddhism. I told it to you before. However, Buddha told Bhikshus not to look at women, and not to talk with women more than 5 words. Bhikshus/Bhikshunis are better teachers, but lay Buddhists should know their limits too.

However, I know that you know about Buddhism, but I like to share my latest post with you: https://www.facebook.com/groups/2204580075/permalink/10160852322380076/


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I guess when we remove the illusion from our mind to be an Arhat, the 'Sankara' (Volition or Mental Formation) stop the desired attachment (Pali: chanda raga | Sinhala: කැමැත්තෙන් ඇලීම) of the next 'Vinnana' (Consciousness), but the life continues on the attachment between the '5 Aggregates of the mind, but without a powerful Clinging. And after the 'last Vinnana' (Pali: chuthi chitta) it fails to be attached to another form of life (rebirth), and that is Nirvana. 🙏🙏🙏
Our own actions become 'Data' in the Universe. And those Data deal with Attachment (Attachment = A connection between Data and Matter/Form). And then it rearranges Matter/Form and Data. And there are two main types of Attachments.
1.) Desired Attachment (Pali: chanda raga)
2.) Undesired Attachmment (Attachment without a power of Clinging)
Those two things work with Gravity and our Actions (Karma/Data). And that is what gives results to our good or bad actions.
★ When our Desired Attachment work against Undesired Attachment of ourselves and others, then it causes to lead the 'Desired Attachment' to the direction of higher Gravity (Below the earth/Hell).
★ When our Desired Attachment reduce the Desire or Support the Undesired Attachment of ourselves and others, then it causes to lead the 'Less Desired Attachment' to the direction of lower Gravity (Higher the earth/Sky/Heaven).
★ When we remove Desire completely from the Desired Attachment of ourselves, then it becomes an Undesired Attachment and then it causes to reduce the Clinging of the Attachment and it fails to be Attached to another Form/Matter (life) after the death (Unattached to the force of Gravity and Data or Karma/ Inactive/ Nirvana).
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According to Buddhism there are '5 Aggregates Of Clinging' which cause to continue the mind.
(Matter or Form (rupa), Sensation or Feeling (vedana), Perception and/or cognition (sanna), Volition or Mental Formation (sankara), Consciousness (vinnana) )
I guess this is how those 5 Aggregates Of Clinging started to work together:
i.) Matter or Form (rupa) = Body
ii.) Data = Sensation or Feeling (vedana) (a cosmic structural change)
iii.) The amount of Data = Perception and/or cognition (sanna)
iv.) The power/pattern of attachment = Volition or Mental Formation (sankara)
v.) Attachment = Consciousness/mind (Vinnana)
I guess this is how it started:
1.) Matter/Form touched Matter/Form and then it made a 'Data' (Data = a cosmic structural change).
2,) Matter/Form touched 'Data' and then it made an Attachment.
3.) Attachment (Vinnana) caused to touch 'Data' (Naama) with another Matter/Form (Rupa) again.

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Lily PearceLily and 101 others manage the membership and posts for Buddhism. Thanks for this. You obviously like study of Buddhism which is great.

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Suresh WanayalaeYou and 101 others manage the membership and posts for Buddhism. Yes. I'm investigating and trying to practice Buddhism. And I'm finding and making short cuts to learn and practice Buddhism. I was not a Buddhist, but my late father was a Buddhist 😇 🙏🙏🙏
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Suresh WanayalaeYou and 101 others manage the membership and posts for Buddhism. Lily Pearce , According to Buddhism there were 70 aeons (70 big bangs) when there were no Buddhas. and again there were around 30 aeons (30 big bangs) when there were no Buddhas. So it is difficults to think we will receive an opportunity again even after 3 aeons. This aeon had 4 Buddhas and another one will appear, so we can try again if we can be humans or gods again. So at least we can try to go to heaven, because the Buddha said that we have to think about heaven if we can't become a stream-entrant (sotāpanna) within this life. 🙏🙏🙏😇
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Lily Pearce Suresh Wanayalae yes, but there are countless other worlds than ours. We can be born in another world system where a Buddha is teaching. But it is really good of you to want enlightenment so much a and so fast. Congratulations to you. If you meditate, meditate, meditate, you will achieve your goal. All best wishes to you. 😊😊😊

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Suresh Wanayalae Lily Pearce , If it is not a problem to the people in another world system then it will be fine. Maybe there will be space for Gods and Brahmas, but it will be difficult to be a human in another world system if we don't have enough merits to be a God, Brahma or a Human. So it is better if we can try to be a God or a Brahma. 🤓🤓🤓

And thank you for your Contratulations and wishes, however I'm trying to collect some merits to use to have a good rebirth. Still I didn't have enough time and a good situation to start meditation, but I'm preparing. I don't know what my Karma will do with me. 😳😳😳
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Lily Pearce Suresh Wanayalae ive heard one moment of meditation on love has more merit that making huge offerings to Buddhas for years...

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Suresh WanayalaeYou and 101 others manage the membership and posts for Buddhism. Lily Pearce , Yes. Loving-Kindness Meditation has more merits than a lot of offerings. I'm practicing it too, but we have to use technics and a good background to practice meditation to attain Samadhi (to go inside the mind). And then the Vipassana meditation will go to deep inside our mind. That is how we can attain Nirvana. But our Good actions, Dhamma offerings and Loving-Kindness meditation can help us to have a good rebirth too. 🙏🙏🙏
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Paul Placucci Very good. Good to see someone in this group understands it. 🙏🙏🙏

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Suresh Wanayalae I guess you are talking about the 'Attachment'!. Yes, it is powerless without the Desire. 😇 🙏🙏🙏
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Low Kim Ok dear 👍

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Tanya Hobson-Begraft If you would like to officially take the Five Precepts, you go through a brief ceremony with your local Buddhist temple. They give you a Dharma name and officially name you as a disciple of Buddha. But do so only after learning about it.

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Colin Wilbur You meditate and read the literature, you'll see.

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Suresh Wanayalae My late father ('Jayasena') was a Buddhist. When I was very small (around 7-10 years old) only once he told me that the Jesus practiced meditation to perform miracles. And then he never influenced me again, and I didn't want to convert to Buddhism. There were few relatives in our family who had converted to Buddhism, and they had funny debates with each other. But I thought that if Jesus would appear to people then they will believe the existence of the creator God. However, I didn't like to go to Sunday school and church even I could meet girls from it. I went few few months from time to time, but it was not interesting. However, I went to church to get confession, and I tried to go again with and without the force of my mother, but I couldn't continue it. 

Then when was around 13 years old a Buddhist cousin brother (Roshan Ferdinand') asked me to find logical answers to some questions, (eg: 
1.) Why some people extremely suffer from birth to death? 
2.) Why animals suffer? 
3.) Why people follow different types of religions? 
4.) What is the purpose of life? 
5.) What are the causes to the existence of the Universe? and etc) And I couldn't find logical answers from any other religion, but I could find logical, kind, intelligent and interesting answers from Buddhism. And those answers were based on causes and effects, middle way, a compassion to all living beings, understanding the mind, the tool of meditation we can use to attain spiritual developments within this life and etc. 
Then I started to study Buddhism. I hope you can find those answers from Buddhism too. 🙏🙏🙏
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Tanya Hobson-Begraft If you would like to officially take the Five Precepts, you go through a brief ceremony with your local Buddhist temple. They give you a Dharma name and officially name you as a disciple of Buddha. But do so only after learning about it.

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Colin Wilbur You meditate and read the literature, you'll see.

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Suresh Wanayalae My late father ('Jayasena') was a Buddhist. When I was very small (around 7-9 years old) only once he told me that the Jesus practiced meditation to perform miracles. And then he never influenced me again, and I didn't want to convert to Buddhism. There were few relatives in our family who had converted to Buddhism, and they had funny debates with each other. But I thought that if Jesus would appear to people then they will believe the existence of the creator God. However, I didn't like to go to Sunday school and church even I could meet girls from it. I went few months from time to time, but it was not interesting. However, I went to church to get confession, and I tried to go again with and without the force of my mother, but I couldn't continue it. 

Then when I was around 11 years old a Buddhist cousin brother (Roshan Ferdinand') asked me to find logical answers to some questions, (eg: 
1.) Why some people extremely suffer from birth to death? 
2.) Why animals suffer? 
3.) Why people follow different types of religions? 
4.) What is the purpose of life? 
5.) What are the causes to the existence of the Universe? and etc) And I couldn't find logical answers from any other religion, but I could find logical, kind, intelligent and interesting answers from Buddhism. And those answers were based on causes and effects, middle way, a compassion to all living beings, understanding the mind, the tool of meditation we can use to attain spiritual developments within this life and etc. 
Then I started to study Buddhism. I hope you can find those answers from Buddhism too. 🙏🙏🙏
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How to know we are at right way to "path of enlightenment"??
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Francis Palande When you never get disappointed and do not blame any one for anything then you are to enlightenment.

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Paul PlacucciPaul and 99 others manage the membership and posts for Buddhism. When you take refuge in the Buddha dharma Sangha follow minimun 5 precepts and follow eight fold path.

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Dz Do When you could see that it makes sense why you need to Live the practices of Buddhism. And when through the practices of Vipassana meditation you could experience the world exists as matters and awareness of matters then things start to look clearer.

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Suresh WanayalaeYou and 99 others manage the membership and posts for Buddhism. You need to find the core teachings of Buddhism. You should know the problems first, then you can find answers. When you find answers then you will find more problems, and then you can find the final answer.

1.) Problems: Suffering --# Rebirth --# Gre
ed --# Illusion
2.) Solutions: Removing Illusion #-- Prajna (understanding/wisdom) #-- Samadhi (concentration) #-- Sila (virtue/conduct) = Noble Eightfold Path = Path to Nirvana

i.) Sila (virtue/conduct) --# 5 Precepts and etc
ii.) Samadhi (concentration) --# Samatha Meditation (Breathing/Loving-Kindness Meditation and etc)
iii.) Prajna (understanding/wisdom) --# Vipassana Meditation (The great discourse on the establishment of awareness/ Mahasatipatthana Sutta)

*Mahasatipatthana Sutta (briefly): https://www.facebook.com/groups/2204580075/permalink/10160782546120076/
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Hi everyone,
I have a question about the not self teachings.
It says in the Anatta- Iakkhana Sutta: The Discourse on the Not- self Characteristic:
"Therefore, surely, O monks, whatever consciousness, past, future or present, internal or external, course or fine, low or lofty, far or near, all that consciousness must be regarded with proper wisdom, according to reality, thus: 'This is not mine, this I am not, this is not myself."
If we are to attempt to let go of the 5 agragates, won't we be letting go of the positive aswell as the nagative? If I can begin to understand the feelings I have are not mine, I will start to let go of good feelings too?
I worry that separating from my ego entirely will leave nothing behind yet I can see from all the wonderful buddhists out there this is not the case so I would just like to understand this teaching better?
Many thanks have a wonderful day 😊
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Dhamma DharoDhamma and 101 others manage the membership and posts for Buddhism. I hope the following will help...

The mental defilements are extremely clever at trapping the hearts of people. This is what they call māra’s snare.
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Dhamma DharoDhamma and 101 others manage the membership and posts for Buddhism. Another one...

The teaching of the Four Noble Truths says: There is suffering – dukkha; there is a cause – samudaya; there is an end – nirodha; and a path to that end – magga. This is such a practical teaching.
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Suresh WanayalaeYou and 101 others manage the membership and posts for Buddhism. It is a good question, and I'll try to answer. I guess we have to try to remove the negative side first, and then we have to practice the Loving-kindness meditation when we try to recognize that the positive side of the self is not mine too. 🙏🙏🙏

I hope these posts will help you: https://www.facebook.com/groups/2204580075/permalink/10160782546120076/

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Stephanie Marie Rosmini Suresh Wanayalae thank you for your reply. OK, so from that I think we are expected to let go of desired attachment and all we'll be left with is undesired attachment? So it's not like all the feelings disappear, they are still there but we are no longer clinging?

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Suresh WanayalaeYou and 101 others manage the membership and posts for Buddhism. Stephanie Marie Rosmini , Yes. We can't reject Feelings (Pali: Vedanā), because it is a natural experience. As an example, when we eat something we can't ignore the taste, but the taste of the food is an attachment. And it is a pleasant feeling, but if we can understand that the feeling is not mine, and it is only a chemical reaction of the body, and the body is like a stick without a life, which doesn't care whether someone touch it or break it. So if can let go the feelings without a greed of the illusion of mine, then it becomes an undesired attachment to the feelings. 

The Buddha said to the Sanga, when you take you meal think when a mother and a father lost in desert with their own dead baby, and they have to eat the baby to survive, how they will eat their baby? They will not have a desire when they eat the dead baby to survive in the desert. They will not eat any part of the dead baby to feel the taste, look better, grow muscles and etc, but they need to live only. And if the Sanga think like that it will help to remove the desire.

I guess the Clinging/Desire is a higher level/power or a pattern of an attachment which not only experience the feelings, but also it tries to cling with the causes (making my Matter/Form and my Data | eg: making my Tongue and my Taste) of the feelings.
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Stephanie Marie Rosmini Suresh Wanayalae thank you for sharing the story about the family in the desert. That will definitely stick with me 🙈 it makes alot of sense what you say, thank you 🙏🙏🙏

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